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Shiney
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
**apologises if u notice this is a dbl post am new to newsgrps & posted as
reply to an old post... **

Hi there

I have been using NM with same person for over 2yrs, gone from dial up, to
cable, to dsl connections (bw the 2 of us). We've used win 98, 2k & xp sp1 &
xp sp2 aswell over this these 2 yrs. We've deal with the bugs here & there,
things like "auto accept calls" not remaining ticked each time u open NM
(dang annoying) etc.

However lately the chat log dies after several hrs (and i have noticed if we
are transferring a file it also dies) when i say "dies" i mean .. the chat
log will have on the title window "Chat - Chatting with 1 other(s)" .. then
after several hrs be it while we r talking or if one is at work or sleeping
after hitting send msg the chat title says "Chat - Not in a call". Its
extremely annoying. The video still works (we dont use audio) so we can
still things going on but we just cant chat/send a file etc any more.
The other person is using xp sp1 & i am using xp sp2 I do know that
versions of NM are the same but the build # are different. We r both using
routers, using different firewalls (software ie: black ice, za) we have
trusted each others ips in our files anyway so that we dont have a firewall
issue. As i mentioned tho this chat - not in a call has happened now & again
over the 2yrs but now its constant but only after several hrs. I've googled
till i'm googled out for answers but seems no1 else has this issue.
I even (stupidly) rang MS in Australia for help and the silly assistant said
XP didnt come with NM I tried to tell him otherwise when he suggested I've
d/l it from somewhere & he was then gonna suggest I do d/l it MS.com (i
laughed bc i know u cant). And NO i didnt take up their offer to pay a fee
of $50 to have their tech help me further!

Hopefully some1 here can end this annoying chat loss.

Thanks in advance.
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Brian Sullivan MVP
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:35:16 +0800, Shiney wrote:

Quote:
**apologises if u notice this is a dbl post am new to newsgrps & posted as
reply to an old post... **

Hi there

I have been using NM with same person for over 2yrs, gone from dial up, to
cable, to dsl connections (bw the 2 of us). We've used win 98, 2k & xp sp1 &
xp sp2 aswell over this these 2 yrs. We've deal with the bugs here & there,
things like "auto accept calls" not remaining ticked each time u open NM
(dang annoying) etc.

I presume you have implemented the known fix for this issue and it no
longer bothers you?

Quote:

However lately the chat log dies after several hrs (and i have noticed if we
are transferring a file it also dies) when i say "dies" i mean .. the chat
log will have on the title window "Chat - Chatting with 1 other(s)" .. then
after several hrs be it while we r talking or if one is at work or sleeping
after hitting send msg the chat title says "Chat - Not in a call". Its
extremely annoying. The video still works (we dont use audio) so we can
still things going on but we just cant chat/send a file etc any more.
The other person is using xp sp1 & i am using xp sp2 I do know that
versions of NM are the same but the build # are different. We r both using
routers, using different firewalls (software ie: black ice, za) we have
trusted each others ips in our files anyway so that we dont have a firewall
issue. As i mentioned tho this chat - not in a call has happened now & again
over the 2yrs but now its constant but only after several hrs. I've googled
till i'm googled out for answers but seems no1 else has this issue.

I don't know what the cause of your problem is but I suggest a network
issue of some kind triggering a timeout. There is no known NetMeeting
problem (at least not one that I am aware of) -- and nothing I can think of
that might help your situation(other then ending and reestablishing the
call).



Quote:
I even (stupidly) rang MS in Australia for help and the silly assistant said
XP didnt come with NM I tried to tell him otherwise when he suggested I've
d/l it from somewhere & he was then gonna suggest I do d/l it MS.com (i
laughed bc i know u cant). And NO i didnt take up their offer to pay a fee
of $50 to have their tech help me further!



Probably a good choice -- I doubt your $50 would have resulted in a
solution.


--
Brian Sullivan (MVP)
Meeting by Wire ( www.meetingbywire.com)
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Shiney
Guest
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
"Brian Sullivan MVP" <brians@WORMTIREDmeetingbywire.com> wrote in message
news:8oikrl2pf8lz.1fjyn6fvev3i1.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:35:16 +0800, Shiney wrote:

I have been using NM with same person for over 2yrs, gone from dial up,
to
cable, to dsl connections (bw the 2 of us). We've used win 98, 2k & xp
sp1 &
xp sp2 aswell over this these 2 yrs. We've deal with the bugs here &
there,
things like "auto accept calls" not remaining ticked each time u open NM
(dang annoying) etc.

I presume you have implemented the known fix for this issue and it no
longer bothers you?
*grabs blonde wig* umm err no

I did however read something about fixing it but since i was tryin 2 focus
on this particular issue I didnt retain the info :(
Truly appreciate the fix : )


Quote:
However lately the chat log dies after several hrs (and i have noticed if
we
are transferring a file it also dies) when i say "dies" i mean .. the
chat
log will have on the title window "Chat - Chatting with 1 other(s)" ..
then
after several hrs be it while we r talking or if one is at work or
sleeping
after hitting send msg the chat title says "Chat - Not in a call". Its
extremely annoying. The video still works (we dont use audio) so we can

I don't know what the cause of your problem is but I suggest a network
issue of some kind triggering a timeout. There is no known NetMeeting
problem (at least not one that I am aware of) -- and nothing I can think
of
that might help your situation(other then ending and reestablishing the
call).
Yeah we r thinking it could be his newer router bc nothing on my end has

changed.
Only problem with using process of elimination on the configuration is the
fact the chat dying does take several hrs, which could end up takings us
days/wks to figure it out. Though I'm sure we will ....... though if NM is
going to no longer be continued in future window products & MS take similar
action in those future releases as they have with XP (ie: cant d/l NM from
their site) it maybe time to start looking around for another prog :( which
also hasnt proved successful over the years..

Quote:
Probably a good choice -- I doubt your $50 would have resulted in a
solution.
No! My solution .. force Mr Gates to grow a brain instead of a bank balance!


Thanks so much 4 gettin back 2 me truly appreciate it
Shine
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Brian Sullivan MVP
Guest
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:43:43 +0800, Shiney wrote:


Quote:
*grabs blonde wig* umm err no
I did however read something about fixing it but since i was tryin 2 focus
on this particular issue I didnt retain the info :(
Truly appreciate the fix : )

I am not sure whether you had this already or not but:
http://www.meetingbywire.com/_various/AutoAcceptXP.reg
is a registry mod that allows persistent auto accept.



Quote:


However lately the chat log dies after several hrs (and i have noticed if
we
are transferring a file it also dies) when i say "dies" i mean .. the
chat
log will have on the title window "Chat - Chatting with 1 other(s)" ..
then
after several hrs be it while we r talking or if one is at work or
sleeping
after hitting send msg the chat title says "Chat - Not in a call". Its
extremely annoying. The video still works (we dont use audio) so we can

I don't know what the cause of your problem is but I suggest a network
issue of some kind triggering a timeout. There is no known NetMeeting
problem (at least not one that I am aware of) -- and nothing I can think
of
that might help your situation(other then ending and reestablishing the
call).
Yeah we r thinking it could be his newer router bc nothing on my end has
changed.
Only problem with using process of elimination on the configuration is the
fact the chat dying does take several hrs, which could end up takings us
days/wks to figure it out. Though I'm sure we will ....... though if NM is
going to no longer be continued in future window products & MS take similar
action in those future releases as they have with XP (ie: cant d/l NM from
their site) it maybe time to start looking around for another prog :( which
also hasnt proved successful over the years..


The no download for XP is quite deliberate -- as the only and correct
verson is included with XP and is protected by the system file protection
mechanism as part of the system. It has been this way since Win2000.

As for the future -- I suspect any downloadable version to be so out of
date that it would have no chance to run anyway.

--
Brian Sullivan (MVP)
Meeting by Wire ( www.meetingbywire.com)
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Shiney
Guest
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
Quote:
I am not sure whether you had this already or not but:
http://www.meetingbywire.com/_various/AutoAcceptXP.reg
is a registry mod that allows persistent auto accept.
*bows* TY Sooooooo much : )

*slaps head* i've been quite a visitor the wire site .. and didnt even see
the link!


Quote:
As for the future -- I suspect any downloadable version to be so out of
date that it would have no chance to run anyway.
*sigh*


Just really wanted to say tyvm for your speedy replies & help & most of all
patience : )
Maybe you should give lessons to the rest of the MSoft crew ; )

Thanks again
Shine
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Brian Sullivan MVP
Guest
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: data applications not in a call Reply with quote
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:02:07 +0800, Shiney wrote:

Quote:
Just really wanted to say tyvm for your speedy replies & help & most of all
patience : )
Maybe you should give lessons to the rest of the MSoft crew ; )

Well since I am just another user and not a part of MSoft crew (well the
MVP crew -- but that is just a group of user volunteers) the opportunity
for providing lessons is limited. ;-)

--
Brian Sullivan (MVP)
Meeting by Wire ( www.meetingbywire.com)
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