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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject:
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We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch, that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor, so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
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Justin Time
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject:
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"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:<10qoecqndq7ra59@corp.supernews.com>...
| Quote: | We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch, that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor, so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
If you just want to stop the airflow and dust, then a block of |
styrofoam or something similar. If you want some protection for fire
along with that, then firestop bricks held in a wire frame or basket. |
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Eric
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject:
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Try firestop pillows. Pack them in the hole and then remove them as
needed. STI makes some.
Good Luck ,
Eric |
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:31 am Post subject:
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
| Quote: | We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch, that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical
room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor, so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic
and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
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I'm almost certain that anything that's ready-made is going to be fire
rated, meaning an overkill for you if you are sure you don't need it
firestopped. See if the construction workers have a piece of drywall they
throw out that covers your hole. May get messy to saw the cutouts for the
cables, but it will be a (semi) permanent solution. A piece of Styrofoam
board, correctly sized, might do well as a temporary plug.
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject:
Re: How to Plug a big hole? |
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"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" <info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com>
wrote in message news:pp7rd.3874734$yk.590626@news.easynews.com...
| Quote: | Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, th wrote:
We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch,
that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical
room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor,
so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the
other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic
and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will
work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
I'm almost certain that anything that's ready-made is going to be fire
rated, meaning an overkill for you if you are sure you don't need it
firestopped. See if the construction workers have a piece of drywall
they
throw out that covers your hole. May get messy to saw the cutouts for
the
cables, but it will be a (semi) permanent solution. A piece of
Styrofoam
board, correctly sized, might do well as a temporary plug.
--
Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
http://www.cabling-design.com
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Thanks. It probably should be firestopped since it's between floors.
But the hole is open and no one has tried to stop it up. The drywall
would have to lay on the floor, and I'm afraid that people standing in
front of the backboard will step on it and turn it to powder - which is
what I'm trying to prevent. The styrofoam might work if I could carve
it out to fit the hole. Thanks.
I was thinking about when I was a kid. My dad knew this guy who used to
do outside work like fences, etc. He would dig a hole and throw a bag
of premixed cement - bag and all - into the hole, and drive the fence
post thru it. Then he would wet the whole thing down with a couple
buckets of water. Bingo, a fencepost set in concrete.
I was thinking about how to do this after I asked here, and I thought
that I might be able to put some heavy polyethylene sheeting into the
hole, and pour a few quarts of cement into it. Then imbed a ring of
heavy wire in the cement to make a handle when it dries. ;-) |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject:
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"Eric" <t568aort568b@aol.com> wrote in message
news:b5569d8f.0411300701.4eb05d17@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Try firestop pillows. Pack them in the hole and then remove them as
needed. STI makes some.
Good Luck ,
Eric
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Thanks. I guess those aren't available at the local Home Depot? |
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject:
Re: How to Plug a big hole? |
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"Justin Time" <a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2207e6fa.0411300549.7ba86624@posting.google.com...
news:<10qoecqndq7ra59@corp.supernews.com>...
| Quote: | We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch,
that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical
room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor,
so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the
other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic
and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will
work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
If you just want to stop the airflow and dust, then a block of
styrofoam or something similar. If you want some protection for fire
along with that, then firestop bricks held in a wire frame or basket.
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Yeah, I was just reading the other followup that suggested using
firestop pillows. I wonder where I could get them. Thanks. |
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject:
Re: How to Plug a big hole? |
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Try your local telcom supply. Grainger, graybar, ADi Litecom, CCW
Rexel, Anixter, or Hilti (makes them too I think) |
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject:
Re: How to Plug a big hole? |
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Try your local telcom supply. Grainger, graybar, ADi Litecom, CCW
Rexel, Anixter, or Hilti (makes them too I think) |
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jdahl2983
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject:
Re: How to Plug a big hole? |
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From underneath (place something heavy over the hole from the top like a
brick before-hand), stuff the hole with "Roxul" or "Rock Wool" Insulation.
That is the stuff that is fire resistant made from steel slag. Pack it in
dense so it is tight and held in place by friction.
Do not use Fiberglass.
Then on the top side of the hole, push the insulation down so it is about
2" below the the floor level and fill in the top with FIRE SIL Caulking so
it is flush with the floor or top of the pipe, whichever is higher.
This will seal up your drafts and fire proof it and water proof it
too.----But you can still easily remove it in the future to pull more cable.
PS if you are after the fireproofing to meet code, check with your fire
inspector for code compliance first.
Good luck
Joel |
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Bruno
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Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:16 am Post subject:
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Thomas and Betts (and others I suppose) sell material for fireproofing such
holes. It is like oatmeal and can be poured into a homemade mould
(cardboard?). If you're worried about future additions, install some PVC
tubing when you fill the hole. put end caps on the PVC and you'll be ready
for future expansion.
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
in message news:10qoecqndq7ra59@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | We have a hole between floors that must be about 3 inch by 16 inch, that
allows the 100 pair telephone cables to pass between the electrical room
on one floor to the same room on the floor above and below. This is
just an open hole, no fire stop or anything. I would like to put
something in it to stop the air from flowing thru to the next floor, so
that drywall construction going on on one floor doesn't fill the other
floors up with dust. I was thinking of getting some rags or plastic and
stuffing it in there. Is there something that I can use that will work
that's removable so that next time a cable needs to be run, it won't
require a hammer and chisel or drill? Thanks.
--
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that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
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changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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