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Robert R Kircher, Jr.
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:
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I have to run 20 lines from a phone closet on the first floor to a closet on
the second floor. Unfortunately these closets are not ontop of each other
so the total run is approx 45'.
Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be? I was
thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never punched down a
25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
Some background. Panasonic PBX is located on the first floor in the server
room. First floor lines will also terminate in this location. We're
running the second floor in a way that if needed we can split the first
floor from the second floor without having to completely rewire the 2nd
floor.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Rob |
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Joe Perkowski
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Telephone wireing advice please. |
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Rob,
Its easy and a piece of cake. Dont let all those lil' wires scare ya, just
follow the color coding of each wire and you will be fine. But, yeah I would
pull one 25 pair instead of 25 seperate cables definetely
Joe P.
In article <sIednfY__spChzHcRVn-gw@giganews.com>, rrkircher@hotmail.com
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I have to run 20 lines from a phone closet on the first floor to a closet on
the second floor. Unfortunately these closets are not ontop of each other
so the total run is approx 45'.
Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be? I was
thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never punched down a
25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
Some background. Panasonic PBX is located on the first floor in the server
room. First floor lines will also terminate in this location. We're
running the second floor in a way that if needed we can split the first
floor from the second floor without having to completely rewire the 2nd
floor.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
--
Rob
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Ed Nielsen
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject:
Re: Telephone wireing advice please. |
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Punching down a 25-pair cable is much easier than it seems. You're
already familiar with terminating Blue, Orange, Green, and Brown. The
5th color is slate. In a 4-pair cable, the tracer color is white. In a
25-pair cable, it's just the same colors repeated 5 times. The only
difference is that in a 25-pair cable the tracer changes colors. The
first group is white, the second group has red for its tracer color
(Red/Blue, Red/Orange, and so on), the third is Black, the fourth is
Yellow, and the fifth is Violet.
CIAO!
Ed
Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:
| Quote: | I have to run 20 lines from a phone closet on the first floor to a closet on
the second floor. Unfortunately these closets are not ontop of each other
so the total run is approx 45'.
Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be? I was
thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never punched down a
25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
Some background. Panasonic PBX is located on the first floor in the server
room. First floor lines will also terminate in this location. We're
running the second floor in a way that if needed we can split the first
floor from the second floor without having to completely rewire the 2nd
floor.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
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Robert Redelmeier
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject:
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Robert R Kircher, Jr. <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be?
I was thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've
never punched down a 25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
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25pr is both easy _and_ fun. It is normally laid in groups
of 5pr by tracer color. Just separate the groups (White,
Red, Black, Yellow, Violet) and punch down the 5 usual colors
(Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate) in order. Easy since
both 66 and 110 blocks are marked for groups.
If you get _real chicken_, you can buy 66 blocks with Amphenol
25pr connectors wired on. Then just get a 25pr Amphenol cable.
-- Robert |
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Robert R Kircher, Jr.
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject:
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I actually thought about that as well but again since I've not worked with
25 pair cable before I wasn't sure exactly how that would work. I assume I
can get a custom cable made with the Amphenol connectors attached but I
wouldn't know where or if it was cost effective. It should would make my
job easier, however. Is there any place online that will make up the cable
where I might be able to look into cost?
Thanks,
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Rob
"Robert Redelmeier" <redelm@ev1.net.invalid> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Robert R Kircher, Jr. <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote:
Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be?
I was thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've
never punched down a 25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
25pr is both easy _and_ fun. It is normally laid in groups
of 5pr by tracer color. Just separate the groups (White,
Red, Black, Yellow, Violet) and punch down the 5 usual colors
(Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate) in order. Easy since
both 66 and 110 blocks are marked for groups.
If you get _real chicken_, you can buy 66 blocks with Amphenol
25pr connectors wired on. Then just get a 25pr Amphenol cable.
-- Robert
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T. Sean Weintz
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:44 am Post subject:
Re: Telephone wireing advice please. |
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Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:
| Quote: | I have to run 20 lines from a phone closet on the first floor to a closet on
the second floor. Unfortunately these closets are not ontop of each other
so the total run is approx 45'.
Anyone have any advice on what the best way to do this would be? I was
thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never punched down a
25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
Some background. Panasonic PBX is located on the first floor in the server
room. First floor lines will also terminate in this location. We're
running the second floor in a way that if needed we can split the first
floor from the second floor without having to completely rewire the 2nd
floor.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Punching down a 25 pair cable is no harder than punching down a whole
bunch of 4 pair cables. Just repeat after me: white, red, black yellow
violet (base colors) blue, orange, green, brown, slate (stripe colors) |
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T. Sean Weintz
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:47 am Post subject:
Re: Telephone wireing advice please. |
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Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:
| Quote: | I actually thought about that as well but again since I've not worked with
25 pair cable before I wasn't sure exactly how that would work. I assume I
can get a custom cable made with the Amphenol connectors attached but I
wouldn't know where or if it was cost effective. It should would make my
job easier, however. Is there any place online that will make up the cable
where I might be able to look into cost?
Thanks,
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I'm sure there are many. Pre-made 25 pair cables with amphenol
connectors on the are common enough. Try googling.
It should only take about 5-10 minutes (if you are just learing!) to
punch down all 25 pairs onto a 66 block, tho. |
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:22 am Post subject:
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Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:
I was thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never punched
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25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
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It IS fun! Run a 25-pair, its the most convenient way to do a phone riser.
On a side note: I'm not all that familiar with Panasonics, just watch out
for number of pairs the phones are using. Some digital phones do require
two pairs per set, so you'll have to run a 50-pair cable instead.
If you punch it down yourself, here is your color code for a 25-pair:
http://www.cabling-design.com/references/colorcodes/25pair.shtml
There's one for 50-pair there as well if you need it.
Good luck!
--
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http://www.cabling-design.com
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Robert R Kircher, Jr.
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:
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Yes I was thinking about the # of pair needed and I'll check again but I'm
almost positive it's on pair per line. It's an old DBS VB-43050.
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Rob
"Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)" <info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com> wrote
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| Quote: | Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:
I was thinking that using 25pair cable would be best but I've never
punched
down a
25pair cable. It doesn't look like fun.
It IS fun! Run a 25-pair, its the most convenient way to do a phone riser.
On a side note: I'm not all that familiar with Panasonics, just watch out
for number of pairs the phones are using. Some digital phones do require
two pairs per set, so you'll have to run a 50-pair cable instead.
If you punch it down yourself, here is your color code for a 25-pair:
http://www.cabling-design.com/references/colorcodes/25pair.shtml
There's one for 50-pair there as well if you need it.
Good luck!
--
Dmitri Abaimov, RCDD
http://www.cabling-design.com
Cabling Forum, color codes, pinouts and other useful resources for
premises cabling users and pros
http://www.cabling-design.com/homecabling
Residential Cabling Guide
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Article posted with Cabling-Design.com Newsgroup Archive
http://www.cabling-design.com/forums
no-spam read and post WWW interface to your favorite newsgroup -
comp.dcom.cabling - 818 messages and counting!
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